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tibbar
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hi,

if we are defining Ito integrals from first principles, and choose to use the Riemann-Stieltjes integral definition, we can calculate the integral as the limit as n->infty of:

or:

The 1st of these definitions turns out to be the "correct" one, since it produces martingales. The integral however, does not exist in a Riemann-Stieltjes sense, since the two limits do not coincide.

Now, can anyone give any further justification for choosing the 1st integral definition?

I can see that by setting f(B_t) = B_t taking expectations of each integral, we get for the first integral definition E(...) = 0, whereas the 2nd integral gives E(...) = t
(using E(B_s x B_ t) = min(s,t) )

and since when f(B_t) = B_t, the integrals should "intuitively" represent B_t, we will pick definition 1, to ensure that E(B_t) = 0.

But this all seems too convenient to me, is there some more technical reason we define the Ito integral this way, other than it just works?

Thx.

Edited: Tue Nov 29, 05 at 02:07 AM by tibbar
 
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Non-anticipative condition. The brownian motion is adapted to the filtration ("information") as of a certain time. So the first equation works. The second violates this condition.
 
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Originally posted by: tibbar
hi,

if we are defining Ito integrals from first principles, and choose to use the Riemann-Stieltjes integral definition, we can calculate the integral as the limit as n->infty of:

or:

The 1st of these definitions turns out to be the "correct" one, since it produces martingales. The integral however, does not exist in a Riemann-Stieltjes sense, since the two limits do not coincide.

Now, can anyone give any further justification for choosing the 1st integral definition?

I can see that by setting f(B_t) = B_t taking expectations of each integral, we get for the first integral definition E(...) = 0, whereas the 2nd integral gives E(...) = t
(using E(B_s x B_ t) = min(s,t) )

and since when f(B_t) = B_t, the integrals should "intuitively" represent B_t, we will pick definition 1, to ensure that E(B_t) = 0.

But this all seems too convenient to me, is there some more technical reason we define the Ito integral this way, other than it just works?

Thx.


Shouldn't it be f(B_i) instead of only B_i in the sum?

/tgn
 
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yes, sorry about the typo.

i found an interesting paper from the actuarial encylopedia:

http://www-stat.wharton.upenn.edu/~steele/Publications/PDF/EASItoCalculus.pdf

which seems to give the most rigourous definition of Ito Calculus, that I have seen so far (compared to financial math books).

Can anyone recommend similar papers / books that tackle Ito integrals from a mathematical analysis perspective?
 
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I recommend Protter (Stochastic Integration and Diff. eqns) and Durrett (Stochastic Calculus) --
both are rigorous, yet accessible -- the authors do a good job of motivating the theorems.

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Originally posted by: tibbar
hi,

if we are defining Ito integrals from first principles, and choose to use the Riemann-Stieltjes integral definition, we can calculate the integral as the limit as n->infty of:

or:

The 1st of these definitions turns out to be the "correct" one, since it produces martingales. The integral however, does not exist in a Riemann-Stieltjes sense, since the two limits do not coincide.

Now, can anyone give any further justification for choosing the 1st integral definition?

I can see that by setting f(B_t) = B_t taking expectations of each integral, we get for the first integral definition E(...) = 0, whereas the 2nd integral gives E(...) = t
(using E(B_s x B_ t) = min(s,t) )

and since when f(B_t) = B_t, the integrals should "intuitively" represent B_t, we will pick definition 1, to ensure that E(B_t) = 0.

But this all seems too convenient to me, is there some more technical reason we define the Ito integral this way, other than it just works?

Thx.


For what it's worth...

Strictly speaking, neither of the above integrals is a RS integral. It is defined somewhat diferently. See Rudin.



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Steele also wrote the book "Stochastic Calculus and Financial Applications" (which was also referenced in the small paper). I didn't read it myself yet but I heard good things about it from colleagues. Maybe someone else on the forum has comments on it?

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thanks for the references.

the paper i linked to seems very interesting. It derives the Ito Integral in an analogous way to how standard integration is defined in Lebesgue integration & measure theory.

The 1st formula for Riemann-Stieltjes in my original post is then shown to be a method of calculating the Ito Integral, which seems a much better way of introducing ito calculus than other books (who simply show the two versions of Riemann limit, and say one is martigale and other is not).

One thing from the paper I haven't yet quite understood is the highlighted text in paragraph 1 of page 5:



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X'_t (ω ) = I (m_t f )(ω ).
(8)
Sadly, this candidate has problems; for each 0 ≤ t ≤ T the integral
I (m_t f ) is only defined as an element of L_2 (dP ), so the value of I (m_t f ) can
be specified arbitrarily on any set A_t ∈ F_t with P (A_t ) = 0
. The union of
the A_t over all t in [0, T ] can be as large as the full set Ω, so, in the end,
the process X_t suggested by (8) might not be continuous for any ω ∈ Ω.
This observation is troubling, but it is not devastating. With care (and
help from Doob?s maximal inequality) one can prove that there exists a
unique continuous martingale X_t which agrees with X_t with probability one
for each fixed t ∈ [0, T ]. The next theorem gives a more precise statement
of this crucial fact.


Can anyone explain why the bold text is true? This seems to be the key point which leads to the two Riemann sums not agreeing.

Thanx.

Edited: Tue Nov 29, 05 at 10:04 PM by tibbar
 
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