My Boss Wants Me Dead 5 : Aftermath
You are going to leave your quant job, maybe your ex-boss is happy about that, may be he is not, but it's up there with death and taxes.
In some cases the relationship has broken down big time, and the boundary between being sacked and resigning is a bit blurred.
In the "my boss wants me dead" series (soon to be a film starring Danny de Vito as your boss and Merryl Streep as you), I've covered how you should present your exit to future employers, pimps and HR.
References are a grey and murky area of recruitment. As a HH I am obliged to look into peoples recent career, and am confident that I am frequently lied to, and never ever get the full truth. As a pimp, my job is sometimes a "professional receiver of lies". I have rung managers who sacked the candidate who are quite happy to say what a nice chap he is, and that their work was great. This is in cases where the candidate has approached us in a situation where the "dead rat in your coffee" from the Guide is not far from the truth.
A long time ago a written reference from a bank was an honest appraisal of your as a person, often with some useful detail.
But the risks of doing this are great for the bank in these times where people sue for bad things being written about them. The last person I sacked had to go when I found them unconscious, drunk, snoring loudly and in a compromising position. But even then I'm not 100% in the clear since I had no witnesses to the situation and a good lawyer could claim sickness or some other excuse.
In at least one case a bank (not one of ours) accidentally gave a bad reference to the wrong person.
That was both embarrassing and expensive.
So you can't always expect to get much of a reference from your ex-employer. No upside, but a possible deep hole.
If you bother to read your contract of employment, we've found that most firms have a clause saying "you must not give references, at all ever, get HR to do it. Just don't OK ?" or words to that effect.
Doing manky stuff like that all by itself justifies the costs of HR departments. They don't care about you as an individual, and to quote the head HR at a household name firm "our job is to protect management from the staff"
In some cases the relationship has broken down big time, and the boundary between being sacked and resigning is a bit blurred.
In the "my boss wants me dead" series (soon to be a film starring Danny de Vito as your boss and Merryl Streep as you), I've covered how you should present your exit to future employers, pimps and HR.
References are a grey and murky area of recruitment. As a HH I am obliged to look into peoples recent career, and am confident that I am frequently lied to, and never ever get the full truth. As a pimp, my job is sometimes a "professional receiver of lies". I have rung managers who sacked the candidate who are quite happy to say what a nice chap he is, and that their work was great. This is in cases where the candidate has approached us in a situation where the "dead rat in your coffee" from the Guide is not far from the truth.
A long time ago a written reference from a bank was an honest appraisal of your as a person, often with some useful detail.
But the risks of doing this are great for the bank in these times where people sue for bad things being written about them. The last person I sacked had to go when I found them unconscious, drunk, snoring loudly and in a compromising position. But even then I'm not 100% in the clear since I had no witnesses to the situation and a good lawyer could claim sickness or some other excuse.
In at least one case a bank (not one of ours) accidentally gave a bad reference to the wrong person.
That was both embarrassing and expensive.
So you can't always expect to get much of a reference from your ex-employer. No upside, but a possible deep hole.
If you bother to read your contract of employment, we've found that most firms have a clause saying "you must not give references, at all ever, get HR to do it. Just don't OK ?" or words to that effect.
Doing manky stuff like that all by itself justifies the costs of HR departments. They don't care about you as an individual, and to quote the head HR at a household name firm "our job is to protect management from the staff"
Live with the fact that years of loyal service get reported as "She joine on this date, left on this date. We paid her some money.
What you must not do is what I found on the Wilmott forums this week, and harass HR over this thin document.
This is deep policy for the bank, and a junior HR who does not conform is risking their job. There is no upside at all for you, and having the person who does your reference annoyed at you is not good in any way at all.
